Because Jim can't keep track of the links I send him.
Catching Elephant is a theme by Andy Taylor
“Yes, but… not all men are like that. And if you’re going to talk about misogyny, you have to be extra-clear about that.”
“Yes, but… misogyny doesn’t just happen in (X) community (atheist, black, gay, etc.). In fact, it’s worse in some other communities. So it’s not fair to talk about misogyny when it does happen in (X) community, as if it’s something special that we’re doing wrong.”
“Yes, but… (X) community where misogyny happens has some great things about it, too. It’s not fair to paint everyone in it with the same brush.”
“Yes, but… the woman/ women in question could have done something to avoid the misogyny she got targeted with. She/ they could have stayed anonymous/ concealed her gender/ dressed differently/etc. I’m not saying it’s her fault, but…”
“Yes, but… the woman/ women in question didn’t behave absolutely perfectly in all respects. Why aren’t we talking about that?”
“Yes, but… the person writing about this incident didn’t behave absolutely perfectly in all respects. Why aren’t we talking about that?”
“Yes, but… there are worse problems in the world. Starving people in Africa, and so on. Why are you complaining about this?”
“Yes, but… gender expectations hurt men, too. Why aren’t we talking about that?”
“Yes, but… people are entitled to freedom of speech. How dare you suggest that speech be censored by requesting that online forums be moderated?”
“Yes, but… calling attention to misogyny just makes it worse. Don’t feed the trolls. You should just ignore it.”
“Yes, but… do you have to be so angry and emotional and over-sensitive about it? That doesn’t help your argument or your cause.”
“Yes, but… what about male circumcision?”
“Yes, but… Rebecca Watson or some other feminist said something mean or unfair in another conversation weeks/ months/ years ago. Why aren’t we talking about that?”
“Yes, but… why is it so terrible to ask a woman for coffee in a hotel elevator at four in the morning?”